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    <p>Ok so I've been programming in PHP for several years now. I always enjoyed building content systems from the ground-up for practice (forums, blogs, comics, general CMSs etc), however in the past few months I have come to the conclusion I am focusing too much time in doing redundant work like building the base content system every time - fetching information from databases, making the basic layout actually work before bringing any valuable content management to it, etc. Now, im aware of development frameworks such as Zend, CakePHP, etc; but I've always failed to work with them to my satisfaction, and seemed to give up on them rather quickly.</p> <p>So my questions are:</p> <ul> <li>How customizable are those frameworks? Can I really get full freedom with them once I learn to use them properly and get to work on actual features instead of wasting weeks on getting a simple base ground up and running?</li> <li>How much can I write my own functions for doing stuff in the background?</li> <li>Are the results usually fast? Or do the frameworks provide slow and heavy code?</li> <li>How intuitive is it to really get them working in my favor and how easy is it to get past the basics nd working with what's really important?</li> </ul> <p>I'd love any insights in this subject. Also I'd love to know if any of you have any preferred frameworks to work with. Thanks in advance!</p>
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    1. COLike you I build my code from the ground up and particularly enjoy building my own frameworks. I don't understand why you start from scratch everytime... I consistently re-use my frameworks (SQL access, Template management, Cacheing etc.) in new projects and re-write my access layer to suit the application/site. For me this is a very valid reason to use abstract classes for base code that never changes and then extending the abstract class with an access layer class.
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    2. COI always try to make a reusable framework, but I end up improving it while making a project, and never able to export it fully. There's always some project specific code that screws me and forces me to rewrite the whole pack. Guess I suck at writing frameworks :)
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    3. COGood way to get around this is by abstracting methods that never change. i.e. how you access data in a SQL DB. This will give you a solid code base to work with that you can modify and change to your hearts content without modifying the base code. e.g. my data access abstraction layer has 7 methods to set, get and execute single or multiple queries. That code never changes. My extension class will always have a runQuery method that uses a 'try{ } catch(){ }' to manage exceptions generated by my base code. I then build all extra functionality into the extension class.
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