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    <blockquote> <p>Is there nothing to automate? </p> </blockquote> <p>Not really. All but two of the examples are one-line commands. </p> <p><strong>tl;dr</strong> Very little of this is really interesting or complex. Very little of this seems to benefit from "automation". </p> <p>Due to documentation, I don't have to remember the commands to do this.</p> <blockquote> <p>Do most programmers prefer to run stylechecks, tests, etc. manually?</p> </blockquote> <p>Yes.</p> <blockquote> <p>generation documentation, the docs task calls sphinx with the appropiate arguments</p> </blockquote> <p>It's one line of code. Automation doesn't help much. <code>sphinx-build -b html source build/html</code>. That's a script. Written in Python.</p> <p>We do this rarely. A few times a week. After "significant" changes.</p> <blockquote> <p>running stylechecks (Pylint, Pyflakes and the pep8-cmdtool). check calls the pep8 and pylint commandlinetools</p> </blockquote> <p>We don't do this. We use unit testing instead of pylint. You could automate that three-step process. </p> <p><strong>But I can see how SCons or make might help someone here.</strong></p> <blockquote> <p>tests</p> </blockquote> <p>There might be space for "automation" here. It's two lines: the non-Django unit tests (<code>python test/main.py</code>) and the Django tests. (<code>manage.py test</code>). Automation could be applied to run both lines. </p> <p>We do this dozens of times each day. We never knew we needed "automation".</p> <blockquote> <p>dependecies sets up a virtualenv and installs the dependencies</p> </blockquote> <p>Done so rarely that a simple list of steps is all that we've ever needed. We track our dependencies very, very carefully, so there are never any surprises. </p> <p>We don't do this.</p> <blockquote> <p>the test task depends on dependencies enables the virtualenv, starts selenium-server for the integration tests, and calls nosetest</p> </blockquote> <p>The <code>start server &amp; run nosetest</code> as a two-step "automation" makes some sense. It saves you from entering the two shell commands to run both steps.</p> <blockquote> <p>the coffeescript task compiles all coffeescripts to minified javascript</p> </blockquote> <p>This is something that's very rare for us. I suppose it's a good example of something to be automated. Automating the one-line script could be helpful.</p> <p><strong>I can see how SCons or make might help someone here.</strong></p> <blockquote> <p>the runserver task depends on dependencies and coffeescript</p> </blockquote> <p>Except. The dependencies change so rarely, that this seems like overkill. I supposed it can be a good idea of you're not tracking dependencies well in the first place.</p> <blockquote> <p>the deploy task depends on check and test and deploys the project.</p> </blockquote> <p>It's an <code>svn co</code> and <code>python setup.py install</code> on the server, followed by a bunch of customer-specific copies from the subversion area to the customer <code>/www</code> area. That's a script. Written in Python. </p> <p>It's not a general make or SCons kind of thing. It has only one actor (a sysadmin) and one use case. We wouldn't ever mingle deployment with other development, QA or test tasks.</p>
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    1. COso, i take, instead of having a single file for your automation (like Make, Rake, Paver), you prefer having multiple scripts?
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    2. CO@keppla: Yes. I run them when I need them. I don't get what part of this I would "automate". Can you provide some example of a sequence or a script of steps that would require "automation"? I do these one at a time, never two steps together. Never. I don't see what "automation" you're talking about. Can you provide a sample script or sequence of steps that you think of as requiring "automation".
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    3. COI dont see how pythonev has something to do with not tracking dependencies. I use it to not spam my development system, and because different projects may have different requirements, that sometimes conflict.
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