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    <p>This works as well (In Firefox and Safari, haven't tried IE). Save as a .html for an example.</p> <pre><code>&lt;!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"&gt; &lt;html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt; &lt;head&gt; &lt;meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"&gt; &lt;meta name="description" content="A picture and caption that you can change for everyone in the world to see."&gt; &lt;meta name="keywords" content="pic and words, pic words, caption"&gt; &lt;title&gt;Pic and Words&lt;/title&gt; &lt;link href="http://picandwords.be-better.net/styles.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"&gt; &lt;script type="text/javascript" src="http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.4.2/jquery.min.js"&gt;&lt;/script&gt; &lt;script type="text/javascript" src="http://picandwords.be-better.net/s3Slider.js"&gt;&lt;/script&gt; &lt;script type="text/javascript"&gt; $(document).ready(function() { $('#slider1').s3Slider({ timeOut: 4000 }); }); &lt;/script&gt; &lt;style&gt; body, html { margin:0px; width:100%; height:100%; padding:0px; } #slider1 { text-align:center; vertical-align:middle; margin:0px; padding:0px; width:auto; height:auto; } #slider1Content { text-align:center; display:table; /* this is KEY to centering the UL */ position:static; margin:0px auto 0px auto; padding:0px; width:auto; top:auto; } #pageWrapper { width:810px; height:700px; margin:0px auto 0px auto; text-align:center; } &lt;/style&gt; &lt;/head&gt; &lt;body&gt; &lt;div id="pageWrapper"&gt; &lt;h1&gt;Pic and Words&lt;/h1&gt; &lt;!--&lt;a href="new_form.php"&gt;Upload&lt;/a&gt; --&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div id="slider1"&gt; &lt;ul id="slider1Content"&gt; &lt;li class="slider1Image"&gt; &lt;div&gt; &lt;img src="http://picandwords.be-better.net/uploaded_pics/1282179782-2zdr66e.jpg" alt="Somewhere down Baja on the way to Cabo." title="Somewhere down Baja on the way to Cabo." align="center" /&gt; &lt;span class="bottom"&gt;"Somewhere down Baja on the way to Cabo."&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class="slider1Image"&gt; &lt;div&gt; &lt;img src="http://picandwords.be-better.net/uploaded_pics/1282180309-bicycle.jpg" alt="Drunk dude on a bike" title="Drunk dude on a bike" align="center" /&gt; &lt;span class="bottom"&gt;"Drunk dude on a bike"&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class="slider1Image"&gt; &lt;div&gt; &lt;img src="http://picandwords.be-better.net/uploaded_pics/1282180338-captions03211.jpg" alt="Do not want!" title="Do not want!" align="center" /&gt; &lt;span class="bottom"&gt;"Do not want!"&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;div class="clear slider1Image"&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/body&gt; &lt;/html&gt; </code></pre>
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