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    <p>Between Kohana and CakePHP, I'd strongly suggest Kohana (also because it's a php5 fork of CodeIgniter, the lightest framework of them all).</p> <p>Because people tell me I'm a CakePHP hater, let me show you its weaknesses:</p> <ul> <li><strong>slow</strong></li> <li>uses php4 OOP, where <em>"your children can play with your privates"</em> :)</li> <li>did I mention <strong>slow</strong>?</li> </ul> <p>On the other hand, I'd strongly recommend a nice and powerful PHP <em>library</em>: <a href="http://framework.zend.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Zend Framework</a>. It doesn't have the really steep learning curve like it had a few years ago, because now you find many tutorials and screencasts (see <a href="http://www.zendcasts.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer">ZendCasts</a>). Users of framework like CodeIgniter put all the Zend Framework library into CI and such and use them <a href="http://freakauth.4webby.com/tutorials/using-zend-framework-components-in-code-igniter.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">independently</a> (which, from my point of view is another <strong>+1</strong> for ZF)</p> <p><strong>Later edit</strong>: You can see actually how slow <em>CakePHP</em> is compared to the lightning fast <strong>CodeIgniter</strong> and the <strong>Zend Framework</strong> <a href="http://avnetlabs.com/php/php-framework-comparison-benchmarks" rel="nofollow noreferrer">here</a>. From the speed tests you can see that Zend Framework is somewhere from 2 to 3 time fast than Cake and Code Igniter somewhere from 2 to 3 times faste than Zend Framework. That means CodeIgniter can be as <em>6times as fast</em> than Cake (which from my point of view is <em>humiliating</em> for Cake)</p>
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    2. COI think that the slowness of CakePHP is a myth. It's usually down to a lack of knowledge on the part of the developer and a lack of understanding. I think without being able to justify your criticisms you undermine your own points. There is a great deal of things which can be done, nay are required, to be done to Cake applications before they are ready for live.
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    3. COI feel I also need to address the php4 point here. I do agree that it's not ideal. If you are looking for a Cake similar framework which is all php5, check out Litium, http://lithify.me/ - which is created by a bunch of the old Cake guys.
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