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    <p>Mmm, Java seems to be better supported than I though, I searched some stats and found between 92 and 96% of browsers support Java (ie. it is enabled enough to detect it! although I guess lot of Java detection algorithms use JavaScript to detect &amp; report - as you point out - but JS support is very good too anyway, even more in our Web 2.0 era).<br> Adobe boasts better support, but overall the difference is rather marginal. Anyway, somebody really wanting to see/use the application will activate/upgrade/download the needed engine.</p> <p>Now, we have to see what JRE is supported! Alas, I didn't found any stat for that.<br> There, Adobe have an edge: not everybody have Flash 9 or 10, but upgrading is quite fast. While downloading and installing a new JRE is quite a bigger task... Of course, you can target the historical lowest common denominator Java 1.1, or more realistically Java 2 (1.4), but it is still frustrating not to be able to use all 1.6 features...</p> <p>I have seen some people complaining that Java applets crashes their browser (apparently on Unix systems) but it is more an issue with a minor number of browsers/systems than anything else.</p> <p>And as pointed out, startup time of a Java applet is quite longer than for Flash (although some big Flash games are slow to load too).<br> Now, I have seen a number of <a href="http://processing.org/" rel="nofollow noreferrer" title="Cover">Processing</a> applets, like the notorious <a href="http://www.aharef.info/static/htmlgraph/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fstackoverflow.com%2Fabout" rel="nofollow noreferrer" title="Webpages as graphs - an HTML DOM Visualizer Applet">Webpages as graphs</a>, most of them load quickly: lot of the power is already on the hard disk of the user, in the extensive Java library. Processing generates quite lightweight jars, while lot of Flash applets must include foreign libraries... or reinvent the wheel!</p>
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    1. COGood point about JRE version! Can you share that stats links or search keywords?
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