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    1. COYou're right, noloader. But I was definitely confused. EJP was correct in that if you set the server to use its own preferences, the order specified by the client is not important. This is not the default for openssl clients or servers, but it is common practice. That solved most of my problems. However, the main thing I learned is that you will not get OpenSSL 1.0.1 (and hence support for TLSv1.1 or higher) by default on Android 4.1 or higher, where it is available, without some custom code, at least if you are using AndroidHttpClient.
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    2. COJimmy - "you will not get OpenSSL 1.0.1... if you are using AndroidHttpClient". Yeah, Android is totally borked. They are using a downlevel version of OpenSSL (0.9.8, I think). Plus, they screwed their cipher list up (`RC4-MD5`, I believe). Its been borked since Android 2.3 or so. See, for example, [Why Android SSL was downgraded from AES256-SHA to RC4-MD5 in late 2010](http://op-co.de/blog/posts/android_ssl_downgrade/).
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    3. COJimmy - Regarding your choice of `RC4-SHA`: don't do it. Bernstein, AlFardan, et al showed how broken `RC4` is in TLS. There's nothing Ron or RSA can do about it. Plus, the BEAST attacks (padding oracles from 2011) that caused the use of `RC4` (the lesser of the evils) has been remediated. The IETF has their collective heads up their respective asses. See, for example, [On the Security of RC4 in TLS and WPA](http://cr.yp.to/streamciphers/rc4biases-20130708.pdf).
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