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    <p>I think that you may have been misinformed, or perhaps munging a couple of issues.</p> <p>You can set up APN for many carriers: <a href="http://hubpages.com/hub/How-to-Connect-to-Internet-with-Your-BlackBerry-without-Paying-For-Data-Plan" rel="nofollow noreferrer">http://hubpages.com/hub/How-to-Connect-to-Internet-with-Your-BlackBerry-without-Paying-For-Data-Plan</a> <a href="http://www.blackberryfaq.com/index.php/Carrier_specific_APN/TCP_settings" rel="nofollow noreferrer">http://www.blackberryfaq.com/index.php/Carrier_specific_APN/TCP_settings</a></p> <p>This is not "Blackberry Data Services", which do seem to have some restriction based on the carrier's provisioning. Some applications - Verichat and Berry411 are mentioned in the above links - are clearly not restricted to the Blackberry Data Services, though, so I think that would be a bit overgeneralized to say -all- third party applications. (Perhaps the consultant meant third party applications that integrate with Exchange/BES have to go over a BIS link? Or applications that require a secure interface?)</p> <p>I also think it's not quite fair to say "outside of North America," as such services are clearly in use in the EU and India, at least, where various providers (O2, Vodafone) sell Blackberrys to actual customers.</p> <p>I haven't used a Blackberry in several years, but even in my days there was a differentiation between Blackberry data and TCP data sent to the internet, with Opera being a ubiquitous example of a non-Blackberry connection.</p> <p>Of the three answerers, we seem skeptical, and as far as I can tell none of us has been able to find anything to back up the consultant's claim, and indeed have found several counterpoints that seem to indicate the issue is at least incompletely understood. Have you considered asking the consultant via e-mail to clarify?</p>
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    1. COYou are right in that all carriers probably have APN settings. Unfortunately, no data plan in the world includes APN network traffic except north america. So yes the application will work but it'll cost them a lot outside of their already paid data plan.
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    2. COI find that hard to believe. The Android platform uses APN exclusively for data. Some carriers web browser plans, intended for "non-smartphone" that have web capablility through WAP do not include direct TCP data. On those plans using direct TCP may be blocked, or very expensive, depending on the carrier. Also some Blackberry plans are limited to IM, social media, web browsing and email. Using a random port on those plans could be very expensive. Offering a bounty isn't going to change the truth.
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    3. COWhat? You've basically just repeated my point and supported it. Basically not all carriers offer TCP traffic as part of the normal data plan. The data plan they have might be limited to WAP traffic or blackberry BIS traffic. In which case the app will fail when trying to do real TCP traffic.
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